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Jan 3, 2015 9:12:01 GMT
Post by Midnight on Jan 3, 2015 9:12:01 GMT
Yep, I'm done for tonight. Still, 4 pages of forums later, I can't get you to realize you breaking the rules on me several times as an admin was okay and that when I retaliate, "I" get the consequences. It's about as bad as eGO's HHA Ban on Sight implementation - unreasonable, unfair, and Division Leaders (Admins/Founders in this case) banning people for reasons that aren't listed, making up rules not listed and using that as the justifiable ban, and yada yada yada. I didn't even break a rule on their server, wanna know why I was banned there? For switching to the US team to pilot the Viper (duh) and accused of "clearing the server" when it dropped to like, 32p for 30 minutes. But anyway, what does that say for you? You can do as you please and suffer no consequences? Because that's what it looks like more and more with each admin abuse forum I read. As for the age reference, it was because teenagers are hardheaded as fuck, don't listen to shit, think they're invincible, I know, I was one. Not too long ago, but I was one. And the badmin response was pretty obvious, hasn't PT earned that reputation with/without your help?
At this point, I don't give a fuck what you say after this post cause it's pretty obvious 4 pages of forums later you're still stuck on what you think you did was right, when the rules you post on your server say otherwise, that you broke the rules that you post on your server several times, and that you temp ban me for doing it back to you once for being fed up with it.
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Jan 3, 2015 17:19:02 GMT
Post by devon928wolf on Jan 3, 2015 17:19:02 GMT
The video upload has completed and can be found here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPhC6M0ss2AI apologize for the crappy music, but that is recorded on the same audio track as game sound and can't be removed. Feel free to mute the video. This video shows clear cases of admin baserape on multiple occasions. The two main instances can be seen during the life at 4:30, and 7:20 where a TV missle is fired at us in spawn while we are shooting only the tower.
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Jan 3, 2015 18:18:16 GMT
Post by Midnight on Jan 3, 2015 18:18:16 GMT
And if you can't tell throughout several occasions, when I peeked to let Devon fire a TV at you from everywhere on the map, there were lock ons coming from the Tower, as well as Duel's. And you can obviously see I didn't do it anywhere near as much as you two did, once to your multiple times. I even told you to back out of base and stop firing in base shortly at the beginning of the video, the first time must not have been recorded in the 20minute ShadowPlay capture. And also might I add that at 15:00 we are backing into base as you kill us.
Edit: I must've missed it, I told you twice recorded on video to stop entering base and firing so close, within the first 3 minutes of the video. The areas of question are at 0:50 when you are hitting me in base; 1:50 when I told you to stop firing so close to base; 4:40 when you clearly are pursuing to engage me while we are on the pad, you entered base and eventually died, 6:45 when we are taking out the tower you are locking heats and firing TV's at us when we are not even firing anywhere close to you; and at 14:45 you are firing a TV as we are still in base, yes we fired back and at nearly the same, but we know you too well enough not to not fire TV's in our base and not think twice about it being an admin.
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Jan 3, 2015 20:11:49 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2015 20:11:49 GMT
Hey guys, I did watch the whole video and looked into the specific parts where you claimed that we either followed you back to base, baseraped you, and attacked you while you were taking down the tower. First off, at the 15:00 minute mark where we killed you, you had engaged ECM and had , turned around, faced us with your heli, which pretty much gives us the right to shoot at you. You weren't even in your base yet. All of the other times, we never actually followed you into base like you claimed. We simply shot you as you were half way back to your base and then did the right thing by pulling off. The time where Duel flew into your base is on him... lol. I knew something was up so I didn't even gun you. Concluding my feedback, I'd say that Duel is a bit more lenient towards the rules and Slotted and I.
EDIT: It's not a rule that when you're shooting the tower we can't kill you....
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Jan 3, 2015 20:57:58 GMT
Post by Midnight on Jan 3, 2015 20:57:58 GMT
Firing or not, we were in base at 15:00, you would have killed us whether we were turned around or not. That is your rule, do not enter base and do not fire from or in base. I don't do it to you, or anyone else, so why does that give you the right to do whatever you please? Is it cause you're an admin and can do what you want? I didn't even fire out of base at you or broke a single rule until the very end before you temp banned me. And I wasn't firing at you when I was taking the tower down, I know it's not listed, but why does that reserve the right for you to fire at me when I'm not even firing at you? We had no other option at that point but to take it down, we could barely leave the safety of a building without being locked on, ECM failing, SRAW'd, or getting TV'd. And that's a load of shit, the very first minute of the video, you were firing at us going to base, like 50 damage, and I believe at 4:00 something where you clearly entered base and you died because of it. That's at least 2 confirmed incidents right there before I even committed my one TV accusation that I even fessed up to, and you can read the chat towards the end where I told Devon to do it, like I told you several times already, I manned up and told you straight up I did it. I had no other options at that point to get 2 admins and a founder to realize that they are baseraping and won't stop. And I just knew that when I did, I'd get kicked/banned or whatever. But you know what, fuck it. It's funny how you're all cool and respectful and stuff 2v2'ing but on PT, you and several other admins are completely night and day different people. You know how many stories I've heard of you guys kicking or killing people who get the Pilot seat before you? Can't even man up to your own rule. You can see in the video where chosenone I believe gets the pilot seat and I let him fly, A, because I'm not an admin and I wouldn't use it to my own advantage, and B, that's the rule of the server.
This whole situation is biased because it's admins vs regulars, if the roles were reversed, you'd be doing the exact same thing here. And it's not like I was having these problems with regulars where I could have gotten an admin to take care of it, no, I was dealing with the admins doing it themselves. It's like sucking up to your boss, you can't say or do anything about it because he's your "boss" or just simply higher up than you. We had had enough at that point, I asked you to stop twice, on video, and you didn't. You didn't even say anything or acknowledged that I told you to back off. Point and case.
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Jan 3, 2015 21:03:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2015 21:03:23 GMT
The video shows clearly that we never followed you into base with the exception of Duel flying directly into your base but I don't believe we shot. At least I didn't. I'm done arguing with you. You were banned for not making smart decisions. Next time will be a permanent ban.
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Jan 3, 2015 21:07:18 GMT
Post by Midnight on Jan 3, 2015 21:07:18 GMT
How are you not seeing that you did more wrong than I did? And also, before I did anything wrong. 1 TV, am I correct? 1 TV is all we did, and we have an entire 20 minute video of several entering base and firing into our base instances prior to that 1 TV that lead up to our frustration of doing it. How are you not seeing that? Are you just oblivious to common sense? Everyone else who has seen the video is on our side, it's just you two, even other PT members are on my side, Wafflefries, Scy, and even KAOS I believe, I don't know if he's seen it. It's like arguing with someone has video proof against them but refuses to believe they did anything wrong. Scy or Devon said it will be getting to LT and he will be doing something about it.
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Jan 3, 2015 21:10:18 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2015 21:10:18 GMT
Great, after being dealt with accordingly for baserape, you think that bringing more admins into this will help your cause? You've had a history of being kicked, banned, etc. and if it continues, I'll have no problem permanently banning you. Try containing yourself when you're on our server and it won't be such a problem.
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Jan 3, 2015 21:18:05 GMT
Post by Midnight on Jan 3, 2015 21:18:05 GMT
I've only been banned on eGO and kicked from you guys' server. Take Illusion the other week, wasn't a ban, but a kick that got a strike put against him, by who? Duel. I'm the reason HHA has a Ban on Sight for eGO, as well as Campground and Clipz, who rarely ever play the game anymore, and I told you the legitimate reason a few posts ago. And you, as well as your WHOLE PLATOON has a even longer history of admin abuse reports, so don't even go there about "history". Particularly you and Slotted. For months, all I would see on you guys' platoon feed and forums was "banned by Extantify or Slotted". I've actually been cool with Slotted recently, so I'm try to leave him out of this conversation, he wasn't even there for this, and he wouldn't have played how Duel did if he was, that, I will give Slotted props for. Honing up to the rules.
Edit: Oh yeah, I was banned once on PT by Slotted I believe when I baseraped Parkman once (similar to this situation, how funny) after being baseraped several times, no proof, just took his word for it. Later on did I find out the ban list was cleared due to over-abusive admins, hmm...
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Jan 3, 2015 21:27:30 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2015 21:27:30 GMT
I'm done arguing with you. The whole reason you were banned is evident in the video. What we did was minuscule and justifiable. Duel and I didn't break any rules as far as you should be concerned. Thanks for explaining your side of the story but it simply doesn't compare to the vulgar action taken towards the end by you, hence the reason you were banned. Please consider your actions before complaining.
Best Regards, Extantify
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Jan 3, 2015 21:43:03 GMT
Post by Midnight on Jan 3, 2015 21:43:03 GMT
Lol omg, Extantify, you have cracked me up throughout this entire thread man, minuscule? I pointed out like 5 incidents in the video that clearly show you breaking the rules, and I fessed up to my one. Everyone I have shown the video to, literally, EVERYONE, is on my side. Hyeproud, Ozost, Devon, Scy, Wafflefries, and Campground when he gets online to show him, even Slotted, talking to him right now. Who's the child? The person refusing to admit they did anything wrong when there is video proof against them, or the people fessing up to doing 1 wrong thing? Hmm..
You clearly have broken several rules because you were doing exactly what they say not to do, they even post them throughout the game every 5 minutes. Sad.
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Jan 4, 2015 0:35:53 GMT
Post by jetso on Jan 4, 2015 0:35:53 GMT
I'm on your side too, midnight and devon!
People are complaining a lot about you guys (Extantify, Slotted, etc.). At this moment, I think we need to believe that they are not lying! I heared and saw a lot of admin abuse from you. In the video, we can see that Devon was banned very quickly for 1 single thing.
Sorry, but devon was been banned for nothing is comparaison of what you did guys (not only in the video).
By the way, I hope that this story will finish in a great way...
Come on guys, come on!
P.S : Sorry if I did some errors, my french is better then my english (I'm from Quebec)
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Jan 4, 2015 5:33:59 GMT
Post by scy1scy2 on Jan 4, 2015 5:33:59 GMT
Alright guys. As much as I want to side with you, I have to admit after watching the full video it appears that extanify and Dual were right. You were in alot of gray areas and they never really base raped you without you firing. You then clearly baseraped them, and the rules on the PT server have always been that a baserape results in a ban with no warning.
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Jan 4, 2015 5:37:26 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 5:37:26 GMT
Thank you Scy, I honestly just want to apologize to Midnight and Devon for mixing up the rules and what not. I will admit that I did get a little upset towards you guys and yes, Duel and I got a little too close to the base but the whole argument is going nowhere. I guess I was just to quick to act with the ban rather than listen to you guys a little. Sorry Midnight and Devon. I promise it won't happen again and your stay at PT will be made much better in the future.
EDIT: This was Duel's first game back in over a month and to be honest, I was quite surprised that he was getting so close to the base... I wish I could have been in TS with him to inform him personally. I'll take full blame for now and say that Duel and I could have acted a bit more mature toward the whole situation.
EDIT: Midnight and Devon, I've sent you both friend requests just in case you want to discuss this more or even inform us admin's of commotion on the server.
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Jan 4, 2015 5:39:27 GMT
Post by scy1scy2 on Jan 4, 2015 5:39:27 GMT
Thanks for being mature.
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